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elantragt	19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	Lead	[-]
GT Club Legend Posts: 4373 (03/04/04 14:23:49) GT Club Founder Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : None If you do only one performance mod to your car do this one. Matter of fact go a week or two without food if you have to to save up the money quickly! It's that good. The install should be easy other then those potentially rusty endlink bolts. Make sure you use JPJR's DIY and take note of postion of the old bar before installing the new one. Also don't keep the old plastic endlinks, upgrade to the steel ones! On the road the difference is dramatic. The car handles the twisties superbly. The dreaded Elantra body roll bugaboo is all but gone! And there is absolutely no difference in ride quality! None! Hurry up and install this one now! You can thank me later! We need your DIY's, reviews, mod ideas, photos and any suggestions you have for the club. Send them to me at submissions@elantragtclub.com. Thanks for all your help! - GT Man
silet	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#1	[-]
Posts: 1241 (03/04/04 15:43:54) GT Club Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Do you think this one needs a sticky???
Elantrick	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#2	[-]
GT Club Legend Posts: 1166 (03/04/04 17:47:00) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Dude! It's about time Enjoy Elantrick's 2004 Tidal Wave Blue GT with 16" RS Limited Limix wheels, Falken GRB, FK-451 205/50/16 tires, 19.2 Sway bar, Shark Adjustable Short shifter, and Euro antenna.
tirolerpeter	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#3	[-]
Posts: 851 (03/05/04 16:25:14) GT Club Expert Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Yeah! What took you so long to do the bar? I can't believe Hyundai even bothers with skimpier bars in the GLS and the GT.
xweston	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#4	[-]
Posts: 395 (03/16/04 00:17:54) Honor Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I've read some of the posts on the sway bar and some people are saying to change the camber/alignment a little bit after installing it. Is this needed? I would mainly be driving on the road but would like some stability in the twisties just for fun... I probably won't ever hit the track or get too crazy with it.
Elantrick	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#5	[-]
GT Club Legend Posts: 1166 (03/16/04 00:36:39) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Sway bar doesn't effect alignment. It is only a thicker bar replacing the old bar. You have to install it to understand the HUGE amount of difference you will get. Car stays much flatter in corners and steering responce is improved. Elantrick's 2004 Tidal Wave Blue GT with 16" RS Limited Limix wheels, Falken GRB, FK-451 205/50/16 tires, 19.2 Sway bar, Shark Adjustable Short shifter, and Euro antenna.
southpawboston	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#6	[-]
Posts: 3658 (03/16/04 11:57:25) GT Club Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	*Quote:* I've read some of the posts on the sway bar and some people are saying to change the camber/alignment a little bit after installing it. this is not necessary. this is just yet another enhancement you can do (with OR without the new sway bar) that will give your car even higher handling capability. the elantra's rear suspension allows for adjustment of up to -1.2 degrees of camber, meaning the upper half of the wheel is angled slightly inward relative to the bottom half. you may see that a lot of higher end german cars come from the factory this way. also these suspensions are designed to decrease the camber the more the spring gets compressed. sometimes it is plainly visible, if you are driving alongside a big benz or beemer on the highway, and watch the rear wheels as they go over bumps and compress. you will see the top portion of the wheel "tilt in". what this is really for is to give better stability in the turns. as the car is leaning into a curve, compressing the outside wheel's spring, the outside rear wheel will be maintened closer to perpendicular to the road surface and therefore will have maximum traction.
JMONTIGNY	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#7	[-]
Posts: 879 (03/16/04 15:02:40) Lia Hyundai Parts Mgr. Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The reason I recommend it is to prevent snap oversteer in a panic situation. It will give the rear more grip and prevent it from smacking the guardrail in a panic braking situation in a corner. Adjusting the camber will only help some however. It is still possible to spin the car no matter how good you set up the suspension. I know several of the guys on XD have slid the tail around by accident. No one had any damage but you can see that it is entirely possible. I am not sure if the guys that spun had set the camber higher as I suggested. I know I have not spun my car using the 1.2 degree negative camber setting.
RshackXD	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#8	[-]
Posts: 701 (03/16/04 16:27:10) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I spun and hit the dirt during hyperfest.. It was my fault due to hitting the brakes right smack dab middle of the turn.. I just entered too fast, and turned the wheel...well...it just kept right on going straight.. well... my natural instinct was to hit the brakes..WHICH IS NOT A GOOD IDEA.. causing the back end to come around and sliding right off the track into the dirt.. If I had stayed on the gas, I would have been fine.. But when I hit the brakes, it just took too much weight off the rear wheels, which sent me sliding.. BUT IT SURE WAS FUN!! and after that, I learn just to stay in the throttle through the turn.. Id say that experiance really taught me the limits of the car...
Elantrick	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#9	[-]
GT Club Legend Posts: 1166 (03/16/04 17:33:07) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	What these modifications do is to increase the level of grip our cars have, but decrease the "control". Just like the tires, A lower profile tire gives more grip, but when it starts to slide, it will break away sooner. With the old 70 series tires, you can put them into a slide, and then go even faster if you want, they will just slide a bit more. With the lower profile tires, you can loose it before you know it. So far, I have not had any problems. But I am a bit apprehensive now. Elantrick's 2004 Tidal Wave Blue GT with 16" RS Limited Limix wheels, Falken GRB, FK-451 205/50/16 tires, 19.2 Sway bar, Shark Adjustable Short shifter, and Euro antenna.
southpawboston	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#10	[-]
Posts: 3658 (03/16/04 17:39:43) GT Club Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	i've noticed that the cornering limits are higher with the bar, and that at the limit, it feels "twitchy", as though it could lose it if pushed harder. however i wonder if the camber adjustment will promote a safer "at the limit" feedback? or will it just increase the limit, but still leave no feedback at the limit?
Elantrick	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#11	[-]
GT Club Legend Posts: 1166 (03/16/04 17:42:22) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	If you "flatten" the tire at the limmit, when you go beyond, it will break away more abruptly. This is assuming that the -1.2 degree is setting up the wheel to be flat at cornering limits. Of course, those limits will be different with different wheel diameters, tire profiles and tire compounds. Elantrick's 2004 Tidal Wave Blue GT with 16" RS Limited Limix wheels, Falken GRB, FK-451 205/50/16 tires, 19.2 Sway bar, Shark Adjustable Short shifter, and Euro antenna.
JMONTIGNY	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#12	[-]
Posts: 879 (03/16/04 17:49:47) Lia Hyundai Parts Mgr. Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	South, you have the stock tires still right? I would highly consider a set of 205/55/15 performance tires or a set of 16" wheels with 205/50/16 tires. I think you will find that the twitchy feeling goes away. The stock tires are not really confidence inspiring with those soft sidewalls.
southpawboston	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#13	[-]
Posts: 3658 (03/16/04 18:24:09) GT Club Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	yep, still stock here. good point...thanks!
Elantrick	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#14	[-]
GT Club Legend Posts: 1166 (03/16/04 18:48:59) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Going to lower profile tires will decrease the control factor. I have the 205/50-16. However I have Max performance summer tires and can corner at .8 lateral g's without sliding. Yes I have a G-Tech. I can even get .65 g's in the wet without sliding. When I have to go to all season tires, I may find myself facing the wrong way occasionally. Elantrick's 2004 Tidal Wave Blue GT with 16" RS Limited Limix wheels, Falken GRB, FK-451 205/50/16 tires, 19.2 Sway bar, Shark Adjustable Short shifter, and Euro antenna.
merlinrich	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#15	[-]
Posts: 16 (05/07/04 12:55:40) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	To install the Tib sway bar- I realize I need the new bushings- but can I use the EGT brackets? I'm going to skip those afore mentioned meals for a week or two to make this mod happen!
xweston	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#16	[-]
Posts: 395 (05/07/04 13:16:12) Honor Member Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The outer dimensions of the bushings are the same, so yes you can use the same brackets. The inner dimensions, where the bar fits in, is where they are different. ______________________________________________________________________________________________ 2004 GT Hatch, Black, 5spd, 19.2mm Rear Sway, Throttle Body Coolant Bypass, Resonator Removal, Fumoto Oil Valve, Cargo Net, Cargo Tray, Mud Guards, Tinted Windows, Zaino
Elantrick	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#17	[-]
GT Club Legend Posts: 1166 (05/07/04 13:16:22) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	If you are talking about the end links (those white plastic rods) I believe you can re-use the old ones. The metal ones are an upgrade. You may have one fail eventually since the thicker bar will put more stress on the plastic but I doubt you will see a failure right away. If you keep them, plan on replacing them as soon as you can. Elantrick's 2004 Tidal Wave Blue GT With 16" RS Limited Limix wheels, Falken GRB, FK-451 205/50/16 tires, 19.2 Sway bar, Shark Adjustable Short shifter with lifted frame, 80 watt yellow Foglamps independant of the Low beams and Euro antenna.
southpawboston	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#18	[-]
Posts: 3658 (05/07/04 13:54:57) GT Club Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	the only problem is that you don't want the plastic endlink to snap during a hard turn. that's the most likely time when one would snap, when there is a large tension on it. if that were to happen, you could easily spin out of control, depending on how close you were to the limit when it snapped. the fact that the tibs with the 19mm bar never came with the plastic endlinks may mean that they were deemed not strong enough to handle the thicker bar.
silet	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#19	[-]
Posts: 1241 (05/07/04 14:23:18) GT Club Moderator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The metal endlinks were on my 99 and were changed sometime during the 01 run to plastic, probably to keep costs down... but use the metals ones only!!! _________________________________________________________________ 03 GT, Rally Red, 5 spd, ABS/TCS, Tib swaybar, B&M shifter...
JMONTIGNY	Re: 19.2mm '03 Tib Rear Sway Bar	#20	[-]
Posts: 879 (05/07/04 14:29:17) Lia Hyundai Parts Mgr. Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I heard of one member with a Tiburon and the 22mm rear bar that had the mounting tab for the endlink on the strut break off. The endlink was still fine however. I would never consider selling this item with plastic endlinks since I would feel terrible and possibly even in legal trouble if someone was to be injured with one of the bars I sell using plastic links.

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